Converse or Bust- Garry McCarthy 

June 8, 2020

Garry McCarthy has spent a lifetime in law enforcement.  He insists that we continue to avoid real conversations about race.  In this visit to the chat room with Lissa & Thom, you'll hear some untold details from his departure as Superintendent of Chicago Police.  We also learn about what he views as critical breakdowns in maintaining peaceful protests

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